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#227 Dr. Randall Stutman – Episode Notes

https://youtu.be/Voq4K67vQyU

Big Idea’s

“When you’re really good at leadership, you do the things that you believe in everywhere, and that was a big aha”

“Most of us wanna be better leaders, but we don’t know how, and so we read and we talk about it and we attend conferences, and Admired Leadership is how. It’s the actual actions, great leaders and things that you and I can do tomorrow.” 

1 Key Takeaway to Act On 

Wisdom Journal

3:33 Randall’s Routines 

“I try to find segways or transition points, so I don’t move exactly from one conversation to another conversation, at least instantaneously. I create as much of that white space that I can create… That’s a good thing. And I try to do that fairly purposefully all day long”

6:20 Distilling Knowledge into Key Insights

“We’re learning junkies. We wanna get wiser. We think the whole idea here is not just not to make the same mistakes over and over again, but to actually do things as effectively and as efficiently as we possibly can, and to actually act smartly.”

“And so now you’re engaged in the distilling process, you’re taking 8 pages, 10 pages, 20 pages of notes and scribbles, and you’re moving many things in 2, 3, or 4 sentences… I want the process to create a kernel of what’s the insight.  What’s the thing that I wanna eventually remember?” 

“The review is what enables you to be able to find it and find its power and to make it part of your own and make it so that you’ve got the ability to act on that wisdom”

“Wisdom is only wisdom if in fact you act on it.”

15:27 Creating A Shared Learning Team Environment 

“I believe in the oral tradition, very much out of the Greek philosophy of, if you hear it and you’re able to write in your own words, it has a bigger impact on you”

17:16 Randall’s Initial Interest in Leadership 

“I was fascinated, first by conflict processes and conflict in large organizations, groups, relationships, then I got into group dynamics and how groups make decisions and some of the things that happened during that decision-making process”

 “What did they do that you and I don’t do?”

19:43 Randall’s Aha Moments 

“Results really matter, and in our culture in particular, we almost define leadership as synonymous with the results, but the idea of actually having followership, that people want and respect you and want to be around you, want to follow you from place to place, willing to do anything you ask of them because they believe in you and they trust and respect you, and in particular, they believe there’s a reciprocal relationship of loyalty that exists that you would do anything for them. And so therefore, they reciprocate with that, that followership pieces are a really big deal. So there’s a lot of result leaders that don’t have it at all, and as a result don’t get nearly as much done as they could.” 

https://youtu.be/4hXc5y_gTgo

“You gotta know yourself first, you gotta understand yourself, and then your job is to understand that the difference is that other people bring to bear, and then you need to adapt and flex those differences. And so that’s the idea that leadership is highly situational and highly contingent.”

“When you’re really good at leadership, you do the things that you believe in everywhere, and that was a big aha”

“Excellence doesn’t get turned on and turned off”

What is Leadership

28:48 The Predominant Paradigm 

“ If you ask a different question, you find some really insightful things. Behaviors and routines that are in fact universal, timeless, contextually free in the sense that they operate in almost all contexts, that they are somewhat insightful… Profound.”

32:26 Randall’s Exercise With New Employees 

“I have to shake them up and because I have to know that they’re willing to wanna learn a whole new way.”

40:08 The Research Process to Uncover Leadership Behaviors 

“We’re trying to now collect data about who they are and what they are” 

“Every leader we study, we have either a big file or a small file, depending on what kind of access we can get, and whether we’re able to study them more regular, rigorously or from a distance”

“You can go backwards and look at all of those individual leaders and then start to look for patterns, and by the patterns aren’t always obvious, and once you see them, they smack you in the head, but until you see them, they’re really blind”

“I just want to find the patterns of what the best leaders do and share what those best leaders do with other people, and then put that in my own life and hopefully impact other people’s lives with it”

47:14 Randall’s Inkling of a New Routine

“There’s a reciprocal exchange of value in the relationship, so the idea of debt that one individual inside a relationship owes the other at debt creates an inbound, creates a discomfort.”

“Not everything they say and do is gonna have an impact, but when it does make sure that you tell them, and that’s the biggest reward for them as a mentor.”

55:48 Storytelling

“I think the ability to bring ideas alive and have them remembered falls on one of two thing. Either stories or models. And that’s how we learn, we learn through stories and we learn through models. Now, I find models even more interesting from a leadership standpoint, but stories are really, really powerful, I like to tell them, and I think every other human being likes to tell them”

57:39 How Randall Defines Success in Life  

“You’re important to those people because of who you are and what you are, and how you engage them, and when I had that idea around that, that’s what success is, it changed a lot of things for me”

1:01:55 The Difficulties of Studying Early Leaders 

“I’m more likely to find insight with people that are either right in the throes of an issue or that have seen that issue many, many times” 

“In the leadership world, I find that wisdom and experience comes together, and so at least in my personal experience, I’m more likely to find insight with people that are either right in the throes of an issue or that have seen that issue many, many times. When you’ve seen something many, many times, you start to see your own patterns as to what works and what doesn’t work, or what is important and isn’t important. And so when I can find somebody later in their careers or after their careers that are still cerebral, connected to their work, to those ideas, and then I can ask them for their insights I can find sometimes much more insightful things, but again, it’s a pretty big mix. I’ll learn from anybody from anywhere and they see something valuable, I couldn’t care less where they are in their life journey, if they do something valuable and I can see it then great but it’s not the most”

1:04:23 Randall’s  Book Recommendations

1:07:57 Ego is the Enemy 

“Listen, the number one thing that gets on everybody’s way is ego.”

“Ego is definitely the enemy, and it closes down a lot of things. It makes it so that people feel like they own things, they don’t reach and seek information. When you become senior in an organization, everything is filtered for you… You get very small pieces of truth, and so if you’re not out there pushing against that and trying to find the more candid and unbridled views of things, and you’re gonna wind up operating from limited data in much of it, false.

https://youtu.be/ZiNPU-sgYOk

“I think you have to see yourself that your work is tremendously serious and important, and you have to see yourself as less so”

1:12:30 Developing Talent 

“When you get a lot of other smart people that are really experienced talking about something, all of a sudden, light bulbs go off and people get better really fast” 

“The more models you can collect and create for other people, the better they get really fast” 

1:15:34 The “It” Factor  

“The majority of people that have ‘it’ from a leadership standpoint have executive presence and gravitas. It’s all about the way that you balance this idea of markers or cues of status, and then markers or cues of being relationally attractive to other people” 

1:19:02 Randall’s Biggest Challenge 

“Once we start talking about issues around leadership, and they realize that there’s somebody else out there, in this case me, that knows as much about leadership and about how to be effective as they know about what they know, they go, Okay, now I want an advisor” 

1:22:16 Randall’s Top Leader He’s Worked With 

“I was really honored because I was asked to put together having studied him, his principles that were spoken at his eulogy, and 8000 people attended his funeral” 

1:26:38 Randall’s Favorite Historical Leaders 

A book Sean and Randall recommend to learn more about Ghengis Khan is Making of the Modern World by Jack Weatherford

1:30:22 Randall’s Course Admired Leadership 

“Most of us wanna be better leaders, but we don’t know how, and so we read and we talk about it and we attend conferences, and Admired Leadership is how. It’s the actual actions, great leaders and things that you and I can do tomorrow.” 

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